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  • ellavate
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    16 February, 2012 at 10:10
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    I have been teaching for the last year and a half in South America and Europe so I am experienced. I am TEFL and CELTA qualified. However i really want to teach in South East Asia, for example Thailand and Indonesia but it seems most places i have looked at wont even consider you without a degree. Sme dont even ask for CELTA they want a degree -any degree. It doesnt even have to be related!!!!!!

    This seems to have changed relatively recently because when i was looking for jobs there last year im sure this wasnt the case

    Now call me stupid but just because you have a degree, that doesnt mean you know anything about teaching!!! You can get a degree in surfing and that would be ok. Not because i know anything about teaching but because i have an irrelevant degree.

    I have worked so hard the last few years to get experienced, go through CELTA and lots of other training, but now i feel completely disheartened, like all that hard work is for nothing. I wont be considered just because i dont have a degree.

    Please can someone offer me some hope i havnt done all of this for nothing

    Ella

    LeoLeo
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    16 February, 2012 at 15:10
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    Ella, One way of looking at this is to ask yourself:Do you really want to teach at a place like that?
    If they don’t know the value of a qualification then l would not want to know them.
    Your efforts have not been in vain.

    ellavate
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    16 February, 2012 at 16:52
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    Yes i suppose thats true. Maybe its me but It seems like a crazy system thats all!!…If your degree is teaching related well thats of course different, but most of the ones I looked are asking for any old non related degree!

    jade
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    17 February, 2012 at 10:51
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    Who did you complete your TEFL course with? because I did mine with UK-TEFL and they gave me contacts for specific locations i was interested in. I also bought a teaching english abroad book from them and its just a book full of langauage schools.

    So possibly contact the companies you have completed the course with and enquire with them if they could give you possible contacts.

    man from the shire
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    6 February, 2016 at 16:57
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    One of the reasons why schools want you to have a degree, well two actually, is that one: it shows you have dragged yourself through the course and two: it looks good for the school. Perhaps I am blowing my own trumpet because mine is in journalism and so it`s related, which I think it should be. However, to have knowledge and experience, is and will be much more important than qualifications.

    Unassigned
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    22 September, 2016 at 16:45
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    Dear Ella,

    it had always been a dream of mine to teach in Japan. I was also TEFL and CELTA qualified with years of experience in 3 countries and actually formed part of the management team of a language school in Prague when I was turned down for a regular teaching post in Japan. They called me to tell me they were impressed with my CV but that it wasn’t very clear when it came to what university degrees I had. I told them that I had none, as I had started working from a young age. They said that in order to get a work visa, I needed a degree – any degree (even Agriculture & Forestry!). I’ll tell you what I did next. I made it a point to go back to my studies and get a degree. After 5 years (and a Masters degree), I ended up becoming a diplomat! In 2016, I now own my very own language school in Belgium, where I teach English for Diplomatic and Political purposes. I never made it to Japan, but I can’t say that I’m sad about it. Sometimes, life rewards you in funny ways. Don’t be disheartened. That rejection from Japan changed my life in a way that I would never have imagined!

    Clive

    Mia
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    16 May, 2019 at 3:51
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    While it is true that you need a degree to teach in most SE Asian countries, you won’t need one to teach English in Cambodia. It is a shame that countries like Thailand have made it mandatory to have a university degree but I guess there must be a logical reason for why they have made this law. I’ve also heard that you don’t always need a degree to teach in Vietnam, but I can’t say this with absolute certainty.


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