just starting out but have no degree, can I get work ?

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  • ranna100
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    22 February, 2012 at 17:30
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    I’m just in the process of the TEFL course and hope to get work in other countries. I don’t have a degree in any subject, is there still opportunities out there for someone like me?

    I have a PTTLS (Preparing to teach in the life long learning sector) level 4 could this help, I also have other further education qualifications as I’m currently a central heating engineer, thanks, Martyn.

    dan
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    24 February, 2012 at 15:30
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    Reply To: just starting out but have no degree, can I get work ?

    Where are you thinking of teaching? – there are many countries where a degree is not a requirement. Are you thinking of Asia, Europe…?

    ranna100
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    24 February, 2012 at 15:37
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    Reply To: just starting out but have no degree, can I get work ?

    probably south america or maybe asia. Cheers.

    TEFL World Wiki
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    25 February, 2012 at 9:51
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    Reply To: just starting out but have no degree, can I get work ?

    If you don’t have a degree there are still possibilities. These countries do not always require a degree:

    * China – the demand here is so great they often overlook the need for a degree.
    * Colombia
    * Indonesia
    * Ecuador
    * Mongolia
    * Russia
    * Czech republic (although you will need a passport from an EU member state to teach here)

    You will, however, need a TEFL Certificate to show you have knowledge of the subject and teaching it.

    Also, don’t forget that you may well be able to find work in countries which normally require a degree.

    To get these jobs you usually need to be in the country in person, ideally around the start of the new school year. If you contact as many schools as you can you may well be able to find one which is in need of a teacher and is willing to overlook the degree requirements due to the urgency of getting a native speaker into the classroom!

    [url=http://teflworldwiki.com/index.php?title=TEFL_without_a_Degree]TEFL without a Degree[/url]

    dan
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    25 February, 2012 at 19:45
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    Reply To: just starting out but have no degree, can I get work ?

    In South America there are several countries where a degree is not required by legislation to work at private language schools, for example Argentina, Brazil, Chile… (I think – correct me if I’m wrong anyone).

    After that, individual schools all have their own requirements which may or may not include a degree. But the key is to find countries where there is no legal requirement for a degree, and then you will always find some schools.

    If you check back on the [url=http://www.eslbase.com/countries/]Country info and advice[/url] section of Eslbase in a couple of weeks, you’ll see this question answered about almost every country in South America and Asia – the pages are currently being updated wit this and other questions. [url=http://www.eslbase.com/countries/teach-english-in-argentina]Argentina[/url]’s already updated if you want to check that out.

    Hope that helps.

    Dan

    FrancaisDeutsch
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    26 February, 2012 at 2:42
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    Reply To: just starting out but have no degree, can I get work ?

    There are also countries like Japan which require a degree but not a TESOL certificate (some schools may sometimes prefer a certificate, but usually not required).

    At any rate, and more pertinent to your query, there are countries that require neither a degree nor a TESOL certificate, as is the case in Cambodia if I’m not mistaken. There are a still a few countries like this — more than you’d think (poorer countries of course)!

    I would recommend at least a reputable online certificate of 100+ hours (with or without teaching practicum) for the sake of your own sanity as a EFL instructor, not to mention that it will help you achieve minimal efficiency in the classroom as well as give you little a "edge" in the hiring market (that is in countries/schools that don’t require the Celta or some advanced degree in TESOL).

    I wish you the very best of luck in your TESOL endeavors. :D

    markthailand
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    25 May, 2012 at 13:04
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    Reply To: just starting out but have no degree, can I get work ?

    In some countries and areas (Middle East, Japan, Korea) it would be very tough to get work without a degree.
    In most countries though, I suspect you’ll find work somewhere. In Thailand, for example, you need a degree to work in schools. However many teach Business English and make good money. And many still work in schools and never get caught!

    I started teaching ESL without a degree too, but I did a distance learning degree at the same time. Having a degree definitely opens more doors, so it may be worth looking at later down the road.

    DannyCfree
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    29 January, 2013 at 19:35
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    Reply To: just starting out but have no degree, can I get work ?

    Hi,

    What sort of trouble would you get in with an "under the counter" job without a degree? I understand that now in Indonesia it is a visa requirement that you have to have a degre. I was planning on heading to Indonesia to see if I could find a job without the degree but, I am unsure if I will land myself in trouble with the law!

    Does anyone know if you can still go to Cambodia and teach without a degree? It is so hard to get up to date information from the net!

    Thanks,

    ICAL TEFL
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    30 January, 2013 at 10:49
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    Reply To: just starting out but have no degree, can I get work ?

    Although for Cambodia you need a degree schools there – usually at the bottom end of the market – are accepting teachers without a degree still. There are occasional sweeps by the authorities looking for unqualified teachers.

    The penalties for not having a degree vary. In some cases it will be a matter of sticking you on the next plane out of the country, in other cases your school boss will have a quiet word with the local officials, an envelope will change hands and nothing more will be said…

    camwill
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    30 January, 2013 at 14:49
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    Reply To: just starting out but have no degree, can I get work ?

    [quote]Does anyone know if you can still go to Cambodia and teach without a degree? It is so hard to get up to date information from the net![/quote]

    Check out my blog post about [url=http://blog.about-esl.com/teaching-english-cambodia/]teaching in Cambodia[/url]!

    [quote]Although for Cambodia you need a degree schools there – usually at the bottom end of the market – are accepting teachers without a degree still. There are occasional sweeps by the authorities looking for unqualified teachers.

    The penalties for not having a degree vary. In some cases it will be a matter of sticking you on the next plane out of the country, in other cases your school boss will have a quiet word with the local officials, an envelope will change hands and nothing more will be said…[/quote]

    I’ve been working in Cambodia for 3 years and whilst I’m qualified, I know 100s that are not and the ‘bottom end’ schools still pay around $10-12 per hour. There is such a demand for teachers that even some ‘higher end’ schools will employ teachers that aren’t qualified. There are simply too many schools and not enough teachers.

    I have never heard of anything about sweeps from authorities or never seen it. Have you taught in Cambodia? Because I’m wondering where you got this information? If you could tell me where you found this, I’d be interested to read about it myself. This is completely new to me and I’ve been here 3 years!

    Shanghaier
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    1 February, 2013 at 2:52
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    Reply To: just starting out but have no degree, can I get work ?

    If you’re teaching English to support your travel, consider that if you get caught working under the table you can be deported and banned from returning.

    SallyC
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    11 February, 2013 at 14:27
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    Reply To: just starting out but have no degree, can I get work ?

    Can anyone tell me if you usually need a degree if you have a CELTA? Many thanks

    Briona
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    11 February, 2013 at 22:00
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    Reply To: just starting out but have no degree, can I get work ?

    @ SallyC: The TEFL certificate is simply to satisfy schools that you know what you’re doing, whereas the degree is for visa purposes and is therefore non-negotiable. Unfortunately, if you don’t have one, there are very few countries where you can legally teach.

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