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  • EL0807
    Participant
    5 January, 2017 at 16:17
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    First time to Eslbase, just would like to share a bit of my viewpoints as a TEFL teacher now in China. Just finished my first 10-month contract at Hangzhou with Zhejiang University Helen Group. The new term of Chinese schools starts on Feb, so just doing the renewal of my contract. Anyone interested in the new season, should have apply and prepare your documents ASAP.

    Few suggestions and tips for those candidates applying for TEFL jobs in China, which I get asked by most of my friends who want to work in China:

    1. WHAT IS THE AGE LIMIT?
    The age range to teach English in China is between 21 and 60 years old.
    If you are over 60 and have extensive teaching experience, the Chinese government may accept you. However, you will be required to conduct a Health Examination in your own country before applying for a visa.

    2. WHAT IS THE NATIONALITY REQUIREMENT? (May be the biggest issue, most candidates lost the chance because of the nationality limit)
    Native speakers are most welcomed by schools around China. According to the standard of SAFEA, passport holders from UK, USA, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand are recognized as native speakers. Candidates who speak native-like English including native speakers from the above mentioned five nations as well as people from Europe sometimes are acceptable. (non-native speakers will also need to obtain a SAFEA approved TEFL Course before they apply for teaching job in China as according to the requirement of the Chinese authorities). However, if you do have Bachelor degree from a university in native-speaking countries, it will be fine.

    3. HOW MUCH WILL I GET PAID?
    It must be remembered that the cost of living in China is very low compared to Western countries. The basic salary, depending on teaching experience and locations in China ranges from 5,000RMB to 8,000RMB. Last year I’ve been working at Hangzhou Maiyuqiao elementary schools and they paid me 8,500RMB per month with free accommodation. I would say, kind a fair as I still have insurance back in my own country.

    Overall, last year was a very interesting year. My students are quite discipline, Helen Group is kinda helpful, I was also contacting with my agent in UK as well. Both my agent and Chinatefl Network, Helen Group are co-operative. Looking forward to the new year. Btw, Hangzhou is definitely an amazing city! Just some thoughts at the moment, feel free to discuss and you can always PM me.

    Also, few websites to take a reference when you make your decision:
    http://en.safea.gov.cn/
    http://en.chinatefl.com/index.html

    Davis
    Participant
    2 June, 2017 at 2:15
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    FRAUD WARNING! The above OP is clearly a plug for ChinaTefl.com and the Helen Group,both of which are blacklisted by the CTA, CFTU, and even eslcafe. Furthermore the OP provides false information about a TEFL certificate being a requirement to teach in China. Please refer to these two links and discount anything said by the above user. http://www.tefl.net/forums/viewforum.php?f=21&sid=faec7c2646c2ddb245ae613bf3461814 and http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=85692. Then just google “Hangzhou Helen, scam” or do the same at Reddit. Over 30 complaints will pop up.

    Also take note that OP even lies about the current salaries in China (Average for a native ENglish speaker at this time is 16,500 yuan per month) They lie about this because they have historically skimmed 50% of their teacher’s salaries. Teachers inbound to China should educate themselves at the below websites:

    reddit.com/r/chinascamxentral

    eslwatch.info/forum/china

    scam.com/showthread.php?704467-UPDATED-China-Liars-List-ESL-TEFL-Teacher-Job-Scams-Internships-Exporters-etc-BLACKLIST


    Questions about contracts, expat labor rights, teachers requirements and visa laws for China are found at http://chinascamwatch.org

    Bandit
    Participant
    15 June, 2017 at 3:49
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    I did “feel free to discuss” but some ***moderated*** deleted my comment! Why are you giving false information people in your OP Post? THERE IS NO LEGAL REQUIREMENT TO HAVE A TEFL CERTIFICATE TO TEACH IN CHINA! http://opnlttr.com/letter/big-tefl-certificate-china-requirement-lie-scamming-hundreds-foreign-english-teachers-every

    And the people you are plugging in Hangzhou all have been blacklisted for scamming people for years by Reddit, scam.com, the CFTU, and the CTA. Even ESLCafe agrees these people are “less than honorable”. So yeah, let’s discuss all of the REAL FACTS ***moderated***


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    dan
    Moderator
    16 June, 2017 at 10:23
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    Bandit, I’ve heavily moderated your post – we don’t accept insults and threatening accusations. The only reason I’m allowing it at all is because I think a point you make deserves a reply.

    THERE IS NO LEGAL REQUIREMENT TO HAVE A TEFL CERTIFICATE TO TEACH IN CHINA!

    That may be true, but don’t you think learners of English in China have a right to be taught by people who are qualified in the field? Surely we should be encouraging people to get qualified so that they can provide effective teaching to their students, not saying “hey, come and teach in China, you don’t even need to be qualified”. I don’t think constantly hammering away about the fact that you can teach in China without a TEFL certificate does any service to the TEFL profession.

    Just my opinion…

    Dan

    Bandit
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    16 June, 2017 at 16:34
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    Dan,

    First of all, those who read my pre-moderated post know damn well I did not “threaten” anyone. I challenged the OP to produce the facts to support his lie about TEFL certificates being a “requirement to teach in China”. What exactly was the insult you refer to? People who deliberately lie to conceal they are misleading people to buy a TEFL course under false pretenses is shameful. Do you really disagree, Dan? Is it not more than a coincidence that the people the OP praises are known to sell TEFL certificates to people who do not even take a TEFL course?

    The issue is not whether genuine TEFL courses benefit teachers,- they certainly do. But having a TEFL certificate does not qualify anyone to teach in China. The legal requirements are:

    1) A real bachelor’s degree from an accredited university
    2) Fluency in the English language
    3) A police certificate proving no criminal record
    4) 22 years minimum age
    5) A work visa – also known as the Z Visa
    6) 2 years previous teaching experience (or a post graduate degree)

    This is especially critical now that the Chinese government has been cracking down on fake teachers who are claiming to be real teachers but their diplomas and TEFL Certificates are fabrications. See here: http://opnlttr.com/letter/chinas-10000-fake-foreign-english-tefl-teachers-being-exposed-name-photos-and-then-arrested (Screen shot #23)


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    dan
    Moderator
    16 June, 2017 at 16:44
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    Hi Bandit

    I challenged the OP to produce the facts to support his lie about TEFL certificates being a “requirement to teach in China”.

    You accused the OP of working for one of the scammers, which is fine – whether or not it is true, you’re entitled to state that this is what you think. But the wording of your challenge which followed was, in my view, aggressive, and could have been construed as a threat. You may disagree, and that is your right, but that was my interpretation of it and I moderated the post on that basis.

    What exactly was the insult you refer to?

    You described the person who removed your post (me) as a “MF”.

    In reply to the rest of your post, of course I agree that lying, misleading, scamming and selling fake certificates is shameful, and that this should be exposed. But that wasn’t my point. My point was that, regardless of the Chinese laws, we should be encouraging potential teachers to get qualified, so that their future students get the best possible learning experience. Just my opinion – my intention was to make it as a quite separate point to the point about exposing liars and scam artists.

    Dan

    Bandit
    Participant
    16 June, 2017 at 16:51
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    Okay… fine. I can agree with you but lets remember that in the real world, people will lie to one another online if they can make $500 selling a refrigerator to an eskimo at the North Pole. Can we move on now?


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