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  • Davis
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    21 September, 2014 at 14:44
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    The good old days of fake paperwork in China are gone forever. Two ESL teachers in Beijing were just arrested and asked to leave China in 10 days or be deported after they applied for jobs using fake diploma scans. Apparently the Chinese authoities are now actually checking both degrees and TEFL certificates since so many of them are fakes. The two teachers live in my apartment building. I just bought their aquarium and heard the whole story. Needless to say they were stunned. The worst part is that they were told they cannot return to China, even as a tourist, for three years!


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    Hello!
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    21 October, 2014 at 3:45
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    Two teachers has turned into 27 since your OP two weeks ago. And some recruiter also got popped and thrown in the can as well. Are any of those arrested YOUR recruiter?

    http://open.salon.com/blog/china_business_central/2014/10/20/china_arrests_fake_foreign_teachers_esl_job_recruiters

    odo
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    28 October, 2014 at 6:55
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    Reply To: China foreign teachers – deported for fake diplomas!

    Is this just for fake documents (seems like a risky business to begin with), or are Chinese authorities cracking down in general on other violations? Are teachers on L/F/M visas, and those teaching private students or taking second jobs, facing more strict enforcement than before?

    I ask because I haven’t been in China for five years, and I’m thinking of going back. I never heard of any FT being arrested then. I knew lots of people on L and F visas teaching, but no one with fake documents that I knew of.

    Buster
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    7 February, 2015 at 5:59
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    Reply To: China foreign teachers – deported for fake diplomas!

    There were a few teachers arrested in Dalian ( Jan 2015 ) for working on F visas, it appears there is nationwide crack down on ESL teachers.

    Disappointingly though there still doesn’t seem to be much being done about schools that are scams or are in clear violation of contracts/working regulations.

    There are more crackdowns on z visa applicants which is fair enough but there doesn’t seem to be any authority placing checks on the schools them selves.

    shang
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    22 April, 2015 at 12:49
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    Reply To: China foreign teachers – deported for fake diplomas!

    I don’t understand why anyone without the appropriate educational background for teaching English as a second language would risk going abroad to teach. Whether you have a real or a fake degree, it’s not going to do you any good unless your major is TESOL. They will deport or treat you like a migrant without the appropriate qualifications.

    China Scam Patrol
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    2 December, 2015 at 18:30
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    Word to the wise… Come work in China legally or stay home – unless you are willing to risk a felony conviction, 30 days in a Chinese jail (really bad food and no internet nor cable tv), a $2,000 fine and 3-5 year reentry ban that comes free with your deportation. In 2014 over 2,100 expats were deported from China and 1,685 of them were for no Z visa, and 287 of them for using fake university diplomas. Yes, they have been verifying since 2013. It does appear to be a random check but our information is that 50% of the foreign teachers are being checked. 7 teachers from Disney English were just some of the fake teachers who learned a very expensive and embarrassing lesson last year.


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    Robbie
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    15 February, 2016 at 9:11
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    Yep, things have done a 180 in China. Three years ago nobody checked anything. This year they seem to be checking everything. Why so strict all of a sudden?

    Laowai Lao Shi
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    21 November, 2016 at 9:44
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    I am studying now in China and need to know if can work legally without problems as teacher? I already have my diploma from back home and it is real.


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    Bandit
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    21 November, 2016 at 9:49
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    If I were a Chinese parent I would not pay money for a fake teacher and If I found out I would raise holy hell with the local news media. Think about it… For our own kids don’t we all want the best possible education?


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    Why Not?
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    29 July, 2017 at 3:05
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    2017 UPDATE: In 2016, the PSB confirmed that they arrested and deported over 2, 900 expat fake foreign teachers. Well, it is only July of 2017 and they have already arrested and deported 4,109 fake teachers! The PSB Director Guo Shengkun is on target to keep his word of deporting every single fake teacher by the end of 2017, and SAFEA admits that the total probably exceeds 10,000 fake teachers at this time. That is a whopping one-third of all the foreign teachers no working in China!

    I work at a private school in Haidian District of Beijing with 300 student and 12 teachers. 8 of the teachers are fellow-foreigners and 3 of them admitted to me their paperwork was all fake and they were asking my help to teach them how to teach!

    https://chinascampatrol.wordpress.com/2017/05/26/329-china-foreign-teachers-arrested-for-using-fake-tefl-certificates-in-april-of-2017/


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    China Scam Patrol
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    21 August, 2017 at 1:49
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    In the last two weeks a rash of you tube videos have surfaced by foreign job recruiters like “Joey” finally admitting that working without a Z visa and a real universiity degree “is technically illegal” but tries to calm and persuade viewers with yet a second lie… “maybe you have a 5% chance of getting caught”. This is total BS friends.

    First something is illegal or legal. There is no in between. A woman cannot be a little bit pregnant, or “technically pregnant” and let there be no doubt in your mind that YOU WILL BE ARRESTED, JAILED, & DEPORTED WITH A CRIMINAL RECORD IF YOU GET CAUGHT WORKING ILLEGALLY IN CHINA (or most any other country for that matter).

    The next thing you need to know is that the Chinese Public Security Director Guo Shengkun, just authorized the funding for the PSB to verify the university degrees of every single foreign teacher coming to teach in China and those already working here. It may take them another month or two to get the 30,0000 foreign teachers verified, but about 10.000 of them will be arrested and carted off to jail for a 30-day punishment before being deported. Read up here: https://eslwatch.info/en/eslwatch-forum/china/953-chinese-government-now-verifying-every-diploma-of-china-foreign-teachers-ouch.html

    This is the biggest crackdown of illegal foreign workers in China’s history and it started on April 1st, 2017. Here’s a list of the, 1,200 + teachers already arrested and sent home. https://chinascampatrol.wordpress.com/2017/05/26/329-china-foreign-teachers-arrested-for-using-fake-tefl-certificates-in-april-of-2017/

    So in reality, that lie about having a 5% chance of getting caught is only meant to buy enough time for the TEFL job recruiters to collect their placement fee from employers. After they do so, they don’t care if get arrested or not. Follow the law – not the recruiters. A $20,000 job is not worth having a criminal record and never being able to get another travel visa again.


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    Sanchez
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    6 January, 2018 at 12:50
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    Heads up to all China TEFL teachers… The PSB has just posted about 30 new fake sting job ads at Beijinger, Echinacities, and ESlCafe offering high salaries, signing bonus, and furnished apartments. DO not reply if you do not have a real Z visa in your passport and a genuine diploma. Both my neighbor and his GF went to their fake interviews and never came home!


    Before applying for teaching jobs in China be sure to review http://chinascamwatch.org and the r/ChinaTEFL sub at Reddit so you don’t get screwed.

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