CELTA vs. TEFL

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  • kelsnichole
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    19 July, 2006 at 3:37
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    I know we’ve all agreed that CELTA and CertTOSEL certificates are the \"only\" degrees to have if you’re going to teach abroad. But what about for us \"poor folk\" that cant afford those schools? I cant take 4 weeks off work, pay for housing and food, and 2-3K for another school. What are my options?
    I’ve heard everyone say that online classes arent the way to go because you dont get any classroom time. What about online+the weekend course? Or what about a 100 hour weekend course over 4 weeks?
    Since I cant afford the schools, or the degree for that matter, to start off- wheres the \"community college\" equivelant to the Harvard degree of teaching abroad?
    I found a program called \"Oxford Seminars\" at http://www.oxfordseminars.com, for those of us that live in CA. Its half the price, but its only the TEFL certificate. Its comprable in classroom and instruction hours though.
    Personally, I would like to teach in Japan, and I’m hearing that certificates arent a necessity in the majority of asian countries. But if I choose to change the country any time soon? Do I have any other options?

    Jed
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    29 July, 2006 at 15:13
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    If you find a course which is similar to the CELTA or Cert TESOL in terms of hours and assessment, then you should be okay. A lot of schools will accept an \"equivalent\" qualification – it’s not the name they’re looking for, but what you’ve done on the course. Another option is to find a centre which offers the CELTA or Cert TESOL part time, maybe a couple of days or a few evenings a week – you could then work at the same time to pay for it.

    If you’re thinking about teaching in different countries but aren’t sure where yet, then in my opinion it’s worth the investment to do a recognised course \"or equivalent\" so that you don’t limit your choices down the line.

    kelsnichole
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    29 July, 2006 at 16:38
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    Its not so much the time that I dont have enough of. Its the resources. The Celta Courses in the US are a couple of thousands of Dollars, and they require you to do it full time. Theres no weekend or online courses that qualify for the Certificate. I have found what seems to be a reputable school, http://www.oxfordseminars.com, which will give me the TEFL degree and comperable teaching hours and experience. They also help with job placement, and if you dont get offered a job with their degree, they’ll give you a refund. Of course they can only give you a refund of your money- and not your time- but I guess that goes without saying.

    My girlfriend and I are going to do it together next month in Los Angeles, CA and try and go to an Asian Country. Not necessarly together, but we’re working on it. Hopefully this choice wont limit us completely. We also do not have Bachelors degrees, so that limits us drastically to our job choices. :-(

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    27 November, 2007 at 16:39
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    The CELTA is offered at a fairly cheap price in Thailand and Vietnam at the moment. I’m hoping to get a place on the Vietnam course next year. It would cost me £1100 minimum to do the course in the UK (plus 4 weeks living costs), whereas in Vietnam, it’s £770, minus £125 if I pay more than 45 days in advance (roughly $1300US), minus £250 if you complete a 12-month contract with the school offering the CELTA (assuming they want to hire you of course). And in addition to all that, it’ll cost me about £250 to fund my living in Vietnam for a month, compared to god knows how much in the UK. If you’re interested in working in either of these countries, it makes sense, since you avoid the additional cost of moving once you’ve finished the course. Check out the front page of CactusTEFL which has the details. They also mention a similar good deal in Mexico.

    Oops, sorry. I didn’t read you don’t have a degree, so Vietnam is out of the question for work purposes (you might still be able to study there, and get a cheap flight to wherever you want to go afterwards though).

    ICAL_Pete
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    28 November, 2007 at 17:03
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    CELTA has a high profile in Europe and is undoubtedly a popular qualification that will open many doors however it is also true that in most places around the world the basic requirements for entry level teaching positions are a degree plus a TESL/TEFL certificate – not necessarily a CELTA.

    I’ve been in the business of online training for almost 10 years now and have seen a dramatic change in attitude towards online Certification. More and more schools around the world recognize the value of online certificates issued by professional organizations and employers no longer discriminate between Certificates obtained through traditional institutes and those online. Just be careful who you choose as your course provider (and this applies whether they are online or not) and make sure what they offer is of good standard. You can find quality online courses that will give you not only a widely accepted Certificate but also, and perhaps more importantly, the basic tools to enter a new profession with confidence, knowing that when you walk in a classroom you will be able to make a difference.

    As for the practicum, there is a way to gain hands on experience whistle taking an online course and that’s by volunteering with local associations involved with ESL teaching. City Councils, Parishes and local Libraries often organize literacy programs for immigrants, for example, and volunteers are always welcome. By volunteering in a project like these you will not only contribute to your local community but you will also be able to apply TESL/TEFL theories, strategies and techniques discussed in the course and appreciate their full value. You will also end up with true job experience to include in your resume.


    ICAL Quality Online TEFL Training since 1998

    ITTP
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    30 November, 2007 at 3:36
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    Well, seeing as though other schools have taken the initiative to advertise unreservedly I think I’ll have a pop too
    http://www.tefl-tesol-online.com

    The main point to remember with any online course is there MUST be either teaching practice exposure on the course or you will need to have had previous teaching experience.
    Otherwise, you will find it difficult to secure a competitive teaching job position.
    All the best to all the students and schools on this forum

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